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tricky trev 4:04 Tue Apr 5
Appeal successful! Kouyate red card rescinded

An Independent Regulatory Commission has today [Tuesday 5 April 2016] upheld a wrongful dismissal claim in relation to West Ham United’s Cheikhou Kouyate.

The player, who was dismissed for serious foul play during the game against Crystal Palace on Saturday [2 April 2016], will therefore not serve any suspension.

Read more at http://www.thefa.com//news/governance/2016/apr/chiekhou-kouyate-claim-upheld-050416#0ZLDDCbca2k7CC0y.99

Hermit Road 12:23 Thu Apr 7
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It's not a conspiracy, but Leicester have benefitted massively from decisions and we have suffered massively because of them. It's pointing out the obvious to suggest that these decisions can have a drastic cumulative effect on a team's points tally at the end of the season. In other words, they don't even themselves out.

On a related point, we have to get smarter. Refs are subject to pressure applied in the right way. We seem very poor at this from the manager to the players. I'm almost glad in a way that we don't do it because it's an unpleasant part of the game, unfortunately though I think we are suffering because of it now.

Northern Sold 12:14 Thu Apr 7
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CONSPIRACY BULLSHIT





I bet Ronald is around here somewhere??


* sniffs air *

El Scorchio 12:12 Thu Apr 7
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They've had twice as many penalties as any other team.

busheyhammer85 12:02 Thu Apr 7
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Leicester are top of the league not because of decisions, but because of their ability to secure more points than any other team.

That's a FACT.

Northern Sold 11:52 Thu Apr 7
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One McAvennieeeeee 11:45 Thu Apr 7
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People are very very paranoid on here.

One McAvennieeeeee 11:45 Thu Apr 7
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People are very very paranoid on here.

Mad Dog 11:42 Thu Apr 7
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Jaypee
Leicester have been the recipient of loads of decisions

, 11:38 Thu Apr 7
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Re the Rugby and video ref referrals someone was saying that back in the day international referees were up with the pace in a game and tries were awarded or not, in consultation with the linesman, judged on what they'd seen. Whereas now the ref has recourse to video referral he is very often not up with the game and could not make a decision off his own bat with any conviction.

JayeMPee 11:14 Thu Apr 7
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So three of the seven red cards rescinded this season in the premiership have been for West Ham, add to that the fact that we never get penalties I can't help but wonder if there isn't something very wrong.

The question was asked on who a few weeks back about how the authorities could prevent the 'lesser' teams winning trophies, they are certainly trying to prevent us! Video evidence should be available on the spot for contentious issues it really won't take much time, and as someone has pointed out an awful lot of time is wasted anyway arguing these issues.

Hermit Road 12:52 Thu Apr 7
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Any Old Iron 12:10 Thu Apr 7

I read it earlier. He misrepresents Kouyate's tackle in a number of ways, particularly when claiming that both feet were off the floor.

Hermit Road 12:51 Thu Apr 7
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I think rugby has got it wrong on video refs. Probably the worst sport at doing it. The games in the World Cup were slowed down to a standstill repeatedly. There has to be a balance between retaining the entertainment, and ensuring the correct decisions are made. Other sports seem to it well but they are more naturally inclined to the suspense that the decision making process creates. Gridiron and Cricket are examples of this. Football needs to take heed of the situation in rugby though before going too far down that route.

Brucies_Star_Prize 12:20 Thu Apr 7
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atb trev 3:41 Wed Apr 6

That there's not enough reward for not cheating is just as big an issue.

Any Old Iron 12:10 Thu Apr 7
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More bollox spouted here from someone you might think would have half an idea - the Daily Telegraph chief football writer who looks about 19.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/04/06/referee-mark-clattenburg-is-hung-out-to-dry-by-the-fa/

If that bunch of so-called top refs got there way football would no longer be a contact sport. They all need a swift kick up the Aris to serve as a reminder that contact is an inevitable by-product of a fast moving ball sport.

atb trev 3:41 Wed Apr 6
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>>Sadly, all the players cheat including ours.

That's the crux of the problem. There's too much reward for cheating making the ref's job impossible. This idea attempts to redress this by banning a player for any obvious dishonesty to the ref.

Mad Dog 3:40 Wed Apr 6
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For Fuck's sake why can't they just use video refs/ 2nd opinions like they do in rugby.... and every other sport in the fucking world.

Judging by Peter shreeves and the 18 refs in that meeting it might not have helped on Saturday, but it would have helped in loads of thr other times we've been fucked over this season

VirginiaHam 3:39 Wed Apr 6
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Any reason why I shouldn't award a goal?
Any reason why I shouldn't award a penalty?
Can you confirm, red or yellow?

Rugby doesn't have a problem with a small (or long) stoppage because it considers it important to get these decisions right. Football doesn't. In fact, it doesn't care.

Mad Dog 3:34 Wed Apr 6
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The sun today
"All 18 premier league referees agreed at a meeting that Kouyate's challenge was worthy of a red"
Peter shreeves "Absolutely nailed on red card"

Now either
A. They've closed ranks and supported their mate and this is the party line
Or
B. Refs are really THAT shit now.

Either way I can't see us getting anything from refs in the foreseeable future

Alfs 3:34 Wed Apr 6
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Going with Keys' theory, lets get rid of criminal trials as the juries reaching a 'not guilty' verdict are undermining the police.

10thofMay 3:23 Wed Apr 6
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atb,

Great idea in theory but i think there is too much money in the game for that to happen.

Sadly, all the players cheat including ours.

10thofMay 3:21 Wed Apr 6
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OTB, the thing is I think most refs would want a second look when something happens that quickly. If he didn't and it was rescinded then that would make his actions even worse.

I do think that there shouldn't be any of this a team has one or two appeals nonsense.

atb trev 3:18 Wed Apr 6
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Agree with that 10th and I expect this sort of system to be inplace in the next few years.

Personally I'd like a review system to pre-empt a lot of need for reviews in the first place by making players honest. I'd allow the ref to ask any player what happened in any given situation. The expectation would be that the players respond honestly. If the player is found to be lying to the ref following a post game review of the game and referee audio recordings, then they get a ban and fine.

It may be an unworkable system, but if it worked in changing the players behaviour it would remove most incorrect decisions and annoying behaviour out of the game.

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